On this week’s episode, Eric Schmidt and Sam Fazeli are joined by special guests Adam Feuerstein and Peter Kolchinsky to discuss the upward movement of the biotech market along with strong drug launches, deals, and net-positive Q1 earnings, all signaling things may be improving. Next, the group notes the FDA is unlikely to undergo significant reorganization and while this stability is reassuring, complacency should be avoided as headwinds persist. Despite the turmoil, the pharmaceutical industry remains resilient, as people prioritize their health and the need for medicine. The conversation shifts back to the new FDA leadership, highlighting Makary and RFK Jr.’s relationship, anti-vaccine rhetoric and the impacts this may have on vaccine trials. The group notes that at conversations at AACR suggest that large pharma is not worried about the FDA changes, while smaller companies have concerns. BridgeBio’s successful launch of Attruby was also discussed, highlighted as a positive trend for the industry. The conversation shifts back to vaccine uncertainty and the future of mRNA given the skepticism from healthcare professionals, illustrated by Moderna’s potential delays for their flu vaccine combo. The episode ends with Adam’s optimistic take on biotech’s recent turn toward stabilization. *This episode aired on May 2, 2025.
On this week’s episode, Brad Loncar, Eric Schmidt, Yaron Werber, Paul Matteis, and Nina Kjellson discuss impact of tariffs on biopharma relative to other sectors, FDA updates and bright spots, data, and fundraising. The episode opens with a conversation on tariffs and the upheaval and shifts at the FDA, including the departure of Peter Marks, former director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, which has the group concerned over loss of institutional memory, history, and the ability to meet deadlines. The conversation shifts to the measles outbreak, noting concerns about public health and future regulation due to HHS reorganization plans and perceived industry inaction. The group then discusses data, including Vaxcyte’s underwhelming Phase 2b data, and hopes to avoid negative vaccine sentiment. Additionally, Eli Lilly’s Phase 2 data for its siRNA-based therapeutic to lower lipoprotein(a) showed promising results and Amgen and Novartis are conducting their own Phase 3 trials for Lp(a). The episode concludes with a discussion on Isomorphic Labs, which raised over $600 million, with the group praising the investment in early-stage discovery science and expressed hope that it will facilitate the company’s transformation of technology into drugs. *This episode aired on April 4, 2025.
On this week’s episode, Eric Schmidt, Sam Fazeli and Yaron Werber are joined by Biotechnology Innovation Organization's (BIO) John Crowley where they discuss biotech policy shifts, regulatory updates, obesity clinical trials and deal flow. The conversation begins with a focus on the obesity landscape including Novo Nordisk’s CagriSema data, Roche’s partnership with Zealand Pharma and Viking Therapeutics manufacturing agreements, signaling continued investment in the field. John Crowley then leads a conversation on policy and regulatory developments, sharing optimism about a more favorable U.S. policy environment for biotech. He highlights key priorities such as FDA modernization, PBM reforms and domestic manufacturing incentives. Crowley also notes bipartisan recognition of biotech as a strategic asset, though concerns persist around anti-science rhetoric, vaccine skepticism and regulatory challenges. Despite ongoing uncertainty, he sees more opportunities than threats for the industry. On the deal-making front, small-cap oncology acquisitions continue, with Sun Pharma acquiring Checkpoint Therapeutics and BMS consolidating its stake in 2seventy Bio. The discussion also covers biotech pipeline updates, including BioNTech’s disappointing revenue guidance and Legend Bio’s expansion of its CAR-T therapy manufacturing capacity. The episode concludes with insights into the broader biotech market, highlighting the impact of regulatory shifts, M&A activity and clinical trial data. While challenges remain, companies prioritizing innovation and execution continue to be well-positioned for long-term success. *This episode aired on March 14, 2025.
On this week’s episode, Daphne Zohar, Eric Schmidt, Tess Cameron, Brian Skorney, and Yaron Werber discuss the state of the biotech market, emphasizing the resilience of the sector despite current downtowns. The IPO market also remains stagnant, with many companies trading below IPO prices. The conversation shifts to notable deals, including Jazz Pharmaceuticals acquiring Chimerix for $935 million and AbbVie’s move into the obesity space with its $350 million acquisition of Gubra. The group discusses Pliant Therapeutics' discontinuation of the BEACON-IPF Phase 2b trial for bexotegrast in idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis following a data review by the Data Safety Monitoring Board and a secondary expert panel. Biohaven shared promising results from its Phase 1 study of BHV-1300, a potential IgG degrader for autoimmune diseases. The conversation then covers BMS’ decision to terminate MRTX1133, a G12D inhibitor from its $4.8bn acquisition of Mirati Therapeutics, and the challenges independent biotech companies face post-launch, including investor skepticism and long-term value pressure. In regulatory news, the group touches on FDA and NIH Senate hearings, vaccine policy debates, and concerns over the revolving door between industry and regulatory agencies, particularly with Pfizer’s hire of former FDA director, Patrizia Cavazzoni. They also discuss the broader implications of scientific credibility and public trust in healthcare institutions. The episode concludes with insights on professional networking best practices, emphasizing clear and specific outreach strategies, and a discussion on NASDAQ’s move to 24-hour trading, with mixed views on its potential on market dynamics. *This episode aired on March 7, 2025.
On this episode of Biotech Hangout hosts Brad Loncar, Eric Schmidt, Tess Cameron, Luba Greenwood, and Tim Opler, along with special guest Adam Feuerstein, kick off with a discussion on ‘zombie’ biotech companies – those trading below their cash value – and whether they can be revived or should return capital to investors. The conversation then turns to Stoke’s collaboration agreement with Biogen, Solid Biosciences’ promising gene therapy data for Duchenne muscular dystrophy, and industry concerns over biotech fundraising practices. Other key topics include Bluebird Bio’s take-private acquisition, SpringWorks’ potential buyout by Merck KGaA, and updates in the obesity space, including the FDA removing semaglutide from the shortage list. The group also covers BridgeBio’s strong launch of Attruby, biotech M&A sentiment, and rumors of a potential Viking Therapeutics acquisition. *This episode aired on February 21, 2025.
2025 Episodes
On this week’s episode, Sam Fazeli, John Maraganore, Nina Kjellson and Matt Gline dig into an in-depth discussion on the Trump Administration’s recent executive order aimed at lowering drug prices as part of a broader “Most Favored Nation.” The group discusses the 30-day ultimatum, the 180- days for negotiations and concerns that biotechs may not be adequately represented at the table. The conversation shifts to PBMs, noting that there’s growing support for banning spread pricing and requiring more reporting from PBMs. The group also touches on orphan drugs, sharing that there’s bipartisan support to exempt orphan drugs from IRA negotiations. Pharma’s talk of investment in AI is also overviewed. Next, the group discusses Recursion Pharmaceuticals’ Q1 pipeline reorganization and Galapagos reversing its decision to split in two. CMS guidance on IRA Part B negatively impacted Halozyme Therapeutics and J&J, raising questions about the classifications of subQ formulations as different drugs despite sharing the same active ingredient. The episode ends with a discussion on CytomX Therapeutics’ resurrection, including its stock price jump. *This episode aired on May 16, 2025.
On this week’s episode, Daphne Zohar, Josh Schimmer, Tim Opler, John Maraganore, and Paul Matteis discuss the biotech market’s recent resurgence, and new FDA commissioner Marty Makary’s comments during his interview with former Fox News journalist Megyn Kelly. The discussion then shifts to the FDA’s reorganization, confusing return-to-work policies, and low morale at the agency, which resulted in slower review times. The conversation moves to BMS’ Cobenfy Phase 3 ARISE trial results and uniQure’s breakthrough therapy designation for its Huntington’s disease gene therapy. The group then revisits a discussion about biotech market updates and short selling. They also shared perspectives on Harvard University’s lawsuit against the Trump Administration, the broader issue of academic freedoms, and antisemitism on college campuses. The episode concludes with a discussion on the challenging microenvironments, CEO survival tips, and an overview of how investors are evaluating data. *This episode aired on April 25, 2025.
On this week’s episode, Chris Garabedian, Tim Opler, Bruce Booth, and Sam Fazeli discuss the current investor mood, a PIPEs retrospective, and the contraction of new startups. The episode opens with a conversation on the biotech market updates, which have been driven by economic uncertainty and shifting investor sentiment, noting that macroeconomic factors continue to weigh on performance of biotech stocks in the market. Regulatory discussion centers on recent HHS personnel cuts, and the confirmations of FDA and NIH leaders. The conversation shifts to data with Soleno Therapeutics’ Prader-Willi drug approval, oncology readouts, and presentations at the European Lung Cancer Congress 2025. Tim Opler also discussed findings from a recent aging report. On the global front, China’s role in biotech continues to expand, with an increasing share of large pharma molecules originating from the country. The episode concludes with a look at obesity drug deals, including a major partnership with a China-based biotech and a preclinical asset with a novel mechanism targeting satiety and energy expenditure. *This episode aired on March 28, 2025.
On this week’s episode, Daphne Zohar, Paul Matteis, Brian Skorney, Tim Opler and Abe Ceesay kick off with a more optimistic yet cautious perspective that investor sentiment may be improving. The group notes positive market trends post-JPM with the XBI index rising from 86.5 to around 92 since early January. The discussion also touches on on the re-emergence of wall cross pipes and the impact on generalist investor interest. The hosts discuss the positive M&A outlook for 2025, noting Intra-Cellular’s recent acquisition by J&J. Staying on the neuro theme, GH Research announced impressive data from its Phase 2b trial for a short-acting psychedelic drug for treatment-resistant depression. This extended into a discussion on the broader implications of neuropsych drug development, including the need for experienced management and the challenges of patient selection and managing high placebo responses. Other topics discussed include FDA’s approval of Axsome’s migraine drug, the anti-VEGF therapy competitive dynamics, Trump’s tariffs, and more. *This episode aired on February 7, 2025.
On this week’s episode, Chris Garabedian, Yaron Werber and Sam Fazeli discuss the challenges facing the biotech sector, including high interest rates and the overabundance of public biotech companies. The hosts take a look at recent IPOs, noting that Metsra and Sionna have performed well, while others like Septerna and Upstream struggled. Reasons for the market’s reaction to IPOs was also discussed, including concerns about valuation, competition and future funding needs. The hosts also discuss the potential acquisition of SpringWorks by Merck. BioCentury’s Steve Usdin also joins the show to discuss the policy and regulatory environment. He outlines the opportunities and risks for the biotech sector, including potential reforms to onshore manufacturing, IRA Medicare drug negotiation, PBM reforms, FDA and NIH staffing cuts, and much more. *This episode aired on February 14, 2025.
On this week’s episode, Brad Loncar, Chris Garabedian, Eric Schmidt, Paul Matteis and Sam Fazeli kick off with an open mic session on the potential impact of the RFK Jr. hearings and the Trump administration's policies on the biotech industry. The conversation turns to a “unicorn day” with IPOs for Metsara, Maze, Odyssey and Sionna Therapeutics. The group also discusses the approval of Vertex’s journavx and the potential for it to be a blockbuster drug. Akero, Sarepta and Cargo also announced data this week and the hosts summarized the market reactions. Other topics covered include Merck’s buyback announcement and potential impact on M&A activity, Takeda’s CEO, Christophe Weber, steps down, Curie Bio’s new fund, and more. *This episode aired on January 31, 2025.
On this week’s episode, Chris Garabedian, Tim Opler, Sam Fazeli, Brian Skorney and Luba Greenwood begin with breaking news on the obesity front with Novo Nordisk’s next-gen program, amycretin. The conversation transitions to post-JPM public market sentiment and a reluctance in capital markets. On the flip side, the hosts suggest a positive outlook for venture capital investments despite the public market challenges. The group also highlights the active M&A and licensing deal market, including the significant role of Chinese biotechs in licensing deals. The hosts also discusses the impact of Trump’s administration’s actions on the biotech sector, including the freeze on NIH activities and the potential withdrawal from the WHO. Other topics include potential of AI in healthcare, Biogen’s strategic shifts, Nature Medicine paper on GLP-1 drugs effects, and more. *This episode aired on January 24, 2025.
On this week’s episode, Daphne Zohar, John Maraganore, Mike Yee and Sam Fazeli begin the show recapping the JPM ’25, noting investor sentiment was muted and concerns on interest rates have contributed to mixed market sentiment. In terms of deals, three M&A transactions were announced this week including J&J’s plans to buy Intra-Cellular Therapies for $14B, Gilead’s $250M preclinical asset acquisition and GSK’s $1.2B deal with IDRx. Commenting on a challenging IPO market, the group discusses that more private companies are being acquired due to market difficulties and the overvaluation of public companies. The hosts are joined by BIO CEO John Crowley to discuss China’s role in biotech and policy initiatives, FDA reforms and the impact on the biotech industry, and more. *This episode aired on January 17, 2025.
On this week’s episode, Grace Colón, Josh Schimmer, Sam Fazeli, Tess Cameron, Eric Schmidt, and Yaron Werber kick off with a discussion on recent policy moves including the appointment of Vinay Prasad as the director of the FDA’s CBER division and nomination of Casey Means for U.S. Surgeon General, noting the impact on the XBI and uncertainty around vaccine gene therapy approvals. The group pondered what kind of regulator Prasad may be, predicting a stricter approach than his predecessor, Peter Marks. The conversation covered the shifting dynamics in vaccine approvals under the new FDA leadership, highlighting that delays like Novavax’s flu combo signal heightened scrutiny, with mRNA follow-ons likely to pass under stricter labels, while new vaccines face raised efficacy bars. On the policy front, Trump’s proposed “Most Favored Nation” drug pricing strategy raises alarms over a potential trillion-dollar hit to innovation and unintended consequences for U.S. drug prices. The conversation shifts to early data on Genocury’s in vivo CAR-T, PTC’s mixed Huntington’s disease results, and Krystal’s gene therapy for neuropathic keratitis. The episode concludes with a roundup of Q1 earnings results. *This episode aired on May 9, 2025.
On this week’s episode, Chris Garabedian, Brad Loncar, Eric Schmidt, Paul Matteis, and Tess Cameron begin by recapping the markets, highlighting the rise in bond yields. The discussion then transitions to the efficiency of the FDA, noting its current overextension. Next, the group addresses an open letter from biotech executives and investors to Senator Bill Cassidy, highlighting the dismissal of key employees important to FDA review processes. Park Marks’ dismissal is also revisited, along with the impending threat of pharmaceutical tariffs. Wrapping up the discussion on the FDA, its initiative to replace animal testing is overviewed. The conversation shifts to “zombie” biotechs and ongoing private investment, as evidenced by recent Series A announcements. On the data front, Lexeo’s plans to initiate a registrational trial for its gene therapy for Friedreich ataxia, Rhythm’s Phase 3 data, and its stock price increase are discussed. The group also reviews the strategies early companies can adopt now that the IPO window has closed. The episode concludes with a review of notable updates from AAN 2025 and ADPD 2025. *This episode aired on April 11, 2025.
On this week’s episode, Sam Fazeli, Eric Schmidt, and Brian Skorney are joined by Roivant’s Matthew Gline to discuss data, deals and the latest policy updates. The episode kicks off with concerns over potential U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) funding cuts for domestic HIV programs, with the group analyzing the impact on companies like Gilead and GSK, whose HIV prevention drugs have driven significant investor enthusiasm. They then discuss the uncertainty surrounding the new administration’s commitment to public health initiates, considering Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s appointment as HHS Secretary and his past controversial views on vaccines and HIV prevention. The conversation then shifts to data, including positive results from Immunovant and Roivant’s Phase 3 study of batoclimab for myasthenia gravis. The group also examines the surprising absence of short sellers engaging with Roivant post-data release, highlighting shifts in biotech trading strategies. In the muscular dystrophy space, new exon-skipping therapies from Avidity and Dyne show unprecedented dystrophin restoration, suggesting potential functional benefits. However, the tragic death of a patient treated with Sarepta’s gene therapy, Elevidys, reignites concerns about accelerated approvals and the FDA’s risk-benefit calculus in rare disease research. On the deal-making front, AstraZeneca’s $425M acquisition of stealth-mode cell therapy startup EsoBiotec and Sanofi’s $600M deal with Dren Bio underscore biotech’s valuation disconnect, where early-stage private assets command premium prices while public biotechs struggle. The episode closes with insights into Alnylam’s broad label win for Amvuttra in ATTR cardiomyopathy and AstraZeneca’s $2.5B investment in biotech agreements and manufacturing in China, reflecting its long-term strategic vision despite ongoing geopolitical tensions. *This episode aired on March 21, 2025.
On this week’s episode, hosts Chris Garabedian, Brad Loncar, Sam Fazeli and Yaron Werber cover a busy news week ahead of the J.P. Morgan Healthcare Conference as well as a preview of what to expect next week at the event. Thegroup highlights some of the mega private deals announced, including three that involved the licensing of China assets. The hosts zoom out with a recap of end-of-year reports, the current state of the market and XBI outlook. On the data front, Jasper reports positive Phase 1/2 data for chronic urticaria, Vir shares data for masked T-cell engagers and Stoke moves into Phase 3 with their antisense oligonucleotide for Dravet syndrome. The group also discusses Novo’s deal with Valo Health, Galapagos’ interesting move with new spin out company, whether we’ve reached ‘peak obesity’ and much more. *This episode aired on January 10, 2025.